Baker
11 augustus 2007, 10:32
Zo,
Ik heb mijn multitone verkocht.
Tijd voor wat nieuws!
Ik zit al een tijdje te gassen op de marshall JVM.
Ik heb hem nog niet geprobeerd. Ga ik zeker doen, maar in de voorbereiding zat ik een beetje te zoeken naar JVM reviews. Ook ff harmony central gechecked. Van HC zijn eigelijk alleen de negatieve reacties interessant, want voor de rest zijn het allemaal haleluja verhalen omdat iedereen blij is met zijn net nieuw aangeschafte gear.
Ik moet zeggen, de negatieve reviews waren schaars. Maar ik heb er toch een paar gevonden. De onderstaande sneed wel aardig hout vond ik.
Als je de review goed leest dan is de conclusie eigelijk dat de JVM wel ok is, maar niet echt inspireert als een JCM 800 + pedaaltje, of de vette lead van een mesa boogie.
Dus het aloude verhaal blijft in stand: Veelzijdigheid versus Tone.
Met andere woorden als je een JCM 800 wilt, koop er dan één en verwacht niet dat je met de JVM alle supergeluiden in huis hebt.
Nogmaals, ik ga de amp natuurlijk uitgebreid testen om te kijken of het voor míj goed werkt of niet. Maar ik vroeg mij af hoeveel mensen zich hier kunnen vinden in onderstaande review:
Bron: Harmony Central: http://reviews.harmony-central.com/reviews/Guitar+Amp/product/Marshall/JVM+410H/25/1
Product: Marshall JVM 410H
Price Paid: UNKNOWN
Submitted 05/06/2007 at 02:31pm by Gary Diamond
Email: garydiamond at hotmail<dot>com
Features : 9
Marshall's latest offering. It seems as the years go by the 'flagship' model of the day has more and more buttons and knobs and circuit boards. It has a lot of features but at what point does it become over-egging the pudding?
All my favourite amps have been versatile and great sounding, able to get a wide range of tones from a deceptively simple control set. This looks - and more crucially, FEELS - too complicated, so although I rate it a 9, most of those features aren't of any use to me.
Sound Quality : 5
Each and every sound on offer here is one partially different shade of Marshall tone. Honestly, I didn't find that much variety just differing stages of gain and slightly different channel voicings.
The clean is, to be fair, pretty bland and uninspiring. I've never heard a Marshall with a clean tone that can rival a Plexi on the edge of breakup. This one sounds sterile and not very dynamic, even with a nice singlecoil guitar in front of it. I couldn't get it to sound full for a nice jazz tone, it just kept giving me twangy even with neck pickup on a humbucking guitar. I don't exaggerate when I say the 8200 valvestate head I had in the past beat this for clean.
As usual, the best sounds are the low to medium gain ones - does a nice spin on the Plexi and JCM800 tones. But herein lies the problem, to me - if you want those amp sounds, get one of those instead. And lose all the buttons and pedantic gain stage controlling you have here.
The higher gain sounds - what is it with those? I don't care what anyone says, I can't get a well-defined dynamic high gain tone. It always sounds fuzzy and lacks bottom end. I'd swear this amp uses diode clipping - how else would they get the huge but unusable amounts of gain out of a mere four 12AX7s? I'm not one of these people who loves Mesa and has to have the bass at maximum, but I demand that bass response is wide, so it can go from thin as hell to far too boomy to compensate for different styles of guitar and pickup. This goes from stupidly thin to classic rock bass response, which for metal styles just isn't enough. I can get more bottom end from my open back Laney LC50 1x12 combo than a JVM 100 watt head into a 4x12, and thats plain wrong.
Also, harmonic response is poor. I had a 1978 JMP head a few years back, and it really sang. It opened up even more when I swapped for better valves - beautiful multiple overtones and feedback could easily be coaxed out, and by moving the guitar around the overtones would change and still be very musical. The Laney LC50 I currently have also does this, even with the volume so low you'd think it wouldn't. Even at volume levels to make your eardrums bleed, nice Les Paul in hand, I couldn't get much out of it. And I don't think changing the valves would help much either.
Overall I was not that impressed. It wasn't terrible, it just wasn't what I'd expect an amp with an alleged 12 different sounds to be. It didn't have one killer sound in there, and only about four or five can be accessed by the footswitch anyway. That's seven of the sounds written off, which to me says the amp was over-engineered from the get go.
Reliability : 4
The inside is chock a block with PCB. When I worked in amp repair I saw TSL and DSL amps - especially the combos - coming in all the time. Of course because Marshall is such a popular brand you could argue that because there are more overall you'll see more, but I think it was more than that.
Soldering valve sockets to circuit boards is still one of the stupidest cost cutting exercises I can think of in the world of amp design. Especially with skinny, rigid and brittle boards like those in modern Marshalls.
Customer Support : 7
Have dealt with the company several times, in order to order new parts for broken Marshalls. Good service, prompt delivery.
Overall Rating : 4
Been playing some fifteen years now. Electric guitar for about eleven of those. Not bad for someone in his early twenties. I've owned enough gear, some real nice top quality items, that if I listed them here you'd probably say 'no way has this guy owned all that'. It suffices to say that after all I've used, I now know exactly what I like and how to get great guitar sounds that work for me.
I used to believe that Marshall were the best, and at one point they were. There are still few amps that beat a good Plexi or JCM800 (Silver Jubilee is a favourite), but times have changed. The guitar amplification sector has become much more diverse and competitive, and we're spoilt for choice now. So there's no need to settle for a company whose glory days are far behind them. Again this is completely subjective, that's just what I think having gone through so many amplifiers.
This new Marshall isn't anything I haven't heard before. It just has more knobs and switches that are really superfluous and complicate things. The guise is that you get more options which in turn gives you wider scope for tonality, but it falls at basic hurdles like having a strong, versatile clean sound. It's low to moderate gain sounds are great, but still sound better in their original one channel amp form. The high gain sounds don't cut it for me. Honestly, if you play really good thrash stuff like early Machine Head and Pantera, you may well be disappointed. I was much happier with Mesa or Laney for this application.
Throughout this whole review I've kept my bias for Laney out of the equation until now. I honestly think they are better amps, having a much fuller clean and also well-defined, crushing high gain tones. Good dynamics and headroom, ideal for pedals. And if I want a Marshall territory sound, I can drop out some of the bass and crank the mids up to full.
There are some guys out there who will worship this amp, but they might also be the same guys who figure out, later down the line, that actually they haven't got what they want at all. Just what I think
Ik heb mijn multitone verkocht.
Tijd voor wat nieuws!
Ik zit al een tijdje te gassen op de marshall JVM.
Ik heb hem nog niet geprobeerd. Ga ik zeker doen, maar in de voorbereiding zat ik een beetje te zoeken naar JVM reviews. Ook ff harmony central gechecked. Van HC zijn eigelijk alleen de negatieve reacties interessant, want voor de rest zijn het allemaal haleluja verhalen omdat iedereen blij is met zijn net nieuw aangeschafte gear.
Ik moet zeggen, de negatieve reviews waren schaars. Maar ik heb er toch een paar gevonden. De onderstaande sneed wel aardig hout vond ik.
Als je de review goed leest dan is de conclusie eigelijk dat de JVM wel ok is, maar niet echt inspireert als een JCM 800 + pedaaltje, of de vette lead van een mesa boogie.
Dus het aloude verhaal blijft in stand: Veelzijdigheid versus Tone.
Met andere woorden als je een JCM 800 wilt, koop er dan één en verwacht niet dat je met de JVM alle supergeluiden in huis hebt.
Nogmaals, ik ga de amp natuurlijk uitgebreid testen om te kijken of het voor míj goed werkt of niet. Maar ik vroeg mij af hoeveel mensen zich hier kunnen vinden in onderstaande review:
Bron: Harmony Central: http://reviews.harmony-central.com/reviews/Guitar+Amp/product/Marshall/JVM+410H/25/1
Product: Marshall JVM 410H
Price Paid: UNKNOWN
Submitted 05/06/2007 at 02:31pm by Gary Diamond
Email: garydiamond at hotmail<dot>com
Features : 9
Marshall's latest offering. It seems as the years go by the 'flagship' model of the day has more and more buttons and knobs and circuit boards. It has a lot of features but at what point does it become over-egging the pudding?
All my favourite amps have been versatile and great sounding, able to get a wide range of tones from a deceptively simple control set. This looks - and more crucially, FEELS - too complicated, so although I rate it a 9, most of those features aren't of any use to me.
Sound Quality : 5
Each and every sound on offer here is one partially different shade of Marshall tone. Honestly, I didn't find that much variety just differing stages of gain and slightly different channel voicings.
The clean is, to be fair, pretty bland and uninspiring. I've never heard a Marshall with a clean tone that can rival a Plexi on the edge of breakup. This one sounds sterile and not very dynamic, even with a nice singlecoil guitar in front of it. I couldn't get it to sound full for a nice jazz tone, it just kept giving me twangy even with neck pickup on a humbucking guitar. I don't exaggerate when I say the 8200 valvestate head I had in the past beat this for clean.
As usual, the best sounds are the low to medium gain ones - does a nice spin on the Plexi and JCM800 tones. But herein lies the problem, to me - if you want those amp sounds, get one of those instead. And lose all the buttons and pedantic gain stage controlling you have here.
The higher gain sounds - what is it with those? I don't care what anyone says, I can't get a well-defined dynamic high gain tone. It always sounds fuzzy and lacks bottom end. I'd swear this amp uses diode clipping - how else would they get the huge but unusable amounts of gain out of a mere four 12AX7s? I'm not one of these people who loves Mesa and has to have the bass at maximum, but I demand that bass response is wide, so it can go from thin as hell to far too boomy to compensate for different styles of guitar and pickup. This goes from stupidly thin to classic rock bass response, which for metal styles just isn't enough. I can get more bottom end from my open back Laney LC50 1x12 combo than a JVM 100 watt head into a 4x12, and thats plain wrong.
Also, harmonic response is poor. I had a 1978 JMP head a few years back, and it really sang. It opened up even more when I swapped for better valves - beautiful multiple overtones and feedback could easily be coaxed out, and by moving the guitar around the overtones would change and still be very musical. The Laney LC50 I currently have also does this, even with the volume so low you'd think it wouldn't. Even at volume levels to make your eardrums bleed, nice Les Paul in hand, I couldn't get much out of it. And I don't think changing the valves would help much either.
Overall I was not that impressed. It wasn't terrible, it just wasn't what I'd expect an amp with an alleged 12 different sounds to be. It didn't have one killer sound in there, and only about four or five can be accessed by the footswitch anyway. That's seven of the sounds written off, which to me says the amp was over-engineered from the get go.
Reliability : 4
The inside is chock a block with PCB. When I worked in amp repair I saw TSL and DSL amps - especially the combos - coming in all the time. Of course because Marshall is such a popular brand you could argue that because there are more overall you'll see more, but I think it was more than that.
Soldering valve sockets to circuit boards is still one of the stupidest cost cutting exercises I can think of in the world of amp design. Especially with skinny, rigid and brittle boards like those in modern Marshalls.
Customer Support : 7
Have dealt with the company several times, in order to order new parts for broken Marshalls. Good service, prompt delivery.
Overall Rating : 4
Been playing some fifteen years now. Electric guitar for about eleven of those. Not bad for someone in his early twenties. I've owned enough gear, some real nice top quality items, that if I listed them here you'd probably say 'no way has this guy owned all that'. It suffices to say that after all I've used, I now know exactly what I like and how to get great guitar sounds that work for me.
I used to believe that Marshall were the best, and at one point they were. There are still few amps that beat a good Plexi or JCM800 (Silver Jubilee is a favourite), but times have changed. The guitar amplification sector has become much more diverse and competitive, and we're spoilt for choice now. So there's no need to settle for a company whose glory days are far behind them. Again this is completely subjective, that's just what I think having gone through so many amplifiers.
This new Marshall isn't anything I haven't heard before. It just has more knobs and switches that are really superfluous and complicate things. The guise is that you get more options which in turn gives you wider scope for tonality, but it falls at basic hurdles like having a strong, versatile clean sound. It's low to moderate gain sounds are great, but still sound better in their original one channel amp form. The high gain sounds don't cut it for me. Honestly, if you play really good thrash stuff like early Machine Head and Pantera, you may well be disappointed. I was much happier with Mesa or Laney for this application.
Throughout this whole review I've kept my bias for Laney out of the equation until now. I honestly think they are better amps, having a much fuller clean and also well-defined, crushing high gain tones. Good dynamics and headroom, ideal for pedals. And if I want a Marshall territory sound, I can drop out some of the bass and crank the mids up to full.
There are some guys out there who will worship this amp, but they might also be the same guys who figure out, later down the line, that actually they haven't got what they want at all. Just what I think