I denounce my american citizenship....

[bigtonemusicbrewery]

...looking for political assylum. :-(

[Dirk_Hendrik]

We're sorry too Keith (at least the most of us). I wish you a lot of strength for the next 4 years...

[Jeroenvanhulsteijn]

aaaaaaaaaaah, u poor lad. but u must admit...the wife of Bush just had a better recipe for cookies. so victory was already proclaimed.

most Europeans would like to have Kerry winning the race. do u think that Europeans could influence the votings? cuz i get the feeling that at this moment most Americans and Europeans don't know much about each other. and that's why it's possible for Bush to shift focus from foreign politics 2 internal politics. and that's why he can play the lonesome cowboy. should Europe b more aware that the world is gettin smaller? and as the world is gettin smaller, politics is gettin a wider influence? with no doubt it can be said that America's political environment influences the rest of the world. so, i think that, if Europe really would like 2 c political changes, they must be politically active in Amerika during the elections. give lectures and stuff like that.
ow well, the political environment in Europe aint that great as well. tho i think the declaration of intent considering the European Constitution is a big step 2wards political unity within the European community.

i wish us luck, during the upcoming period term of service of Bush. we'll survive

[Dirk_Hendrik]

Jeroen,

How about using capitals, "you's instead of "u" etc. etc. ??? This is the way my 4 year old cousin writes!

[Harry]

the USA election reminds me of the Muppet Show, aahh those good old days.....




(but i still want to spend as much holidays as i can in the biggest bananarepublic in the world, because i love it)

[Jeroenvanhulsteijn]

@DH, i appreciate your concern considering the writing skills of some of the people at this forum. but as this is not a formal letter in the sense of an application letter or some of the like, i'll stick to my informal "my-4-yrs-old-cousin" writing style. in none of my msg's i use capitals. but when it appears to become annoying to many ppl i'll change. :)

[Robbert]

Well... since Bush is re-elected and doesn't care about the USD/Euro, this means the Dollar will lower in value. And that means more business to you Keith.
Politics and visions don't supply bread, money does ;)

Oh, and you are welcome, we could use other pedal builders here :D

[Dirk_Hendrik]

dadadumdumdoo


Don't worry. It is annoying already. I just happen to be the first one telling you. :wink:

[Jeroenvanhulsteijn]

@DH. Well then....Specially for you my dear. A message with no e-talk abbreviations, capital letters et cetera. And now back to making the world a better place.

[birt]

I think there will be an attack on bush in person somewhere in the next 4 years.
I doubt he's gonna get killed...

there is a positive thing about bush being re-elected: he can't make things any worse than they already are can he? If he manages to do that he's crazier than any freakshow. :razz:

[Quink]

...looking for political assylum. :-(

Hi Keith,

well, I've got an attic and a soldering iron, so... :D

[PeArLjAm]

I still don't understand why George W. Bush is re-elected.. I mean he's messed up a lot in 4 years. I'm almost getting to think that some Americans don't give a damn about their country and just vote on the conservative one.. because they're originally conservative. Why do the American peope give Bush another change? They'd better chose Kerry in my opinion.. he couldnt do much worse than Bush?

[Speeddemon]

...looking for political assylum. :-(

Hi Keith,

well, I've got an attic and a soldering iron, so... :D
Same here.

And a hot girlfriend that could use some extra technical 'input'. :oops: :wink:

[Thom TK]

Well, once someone said time to me: Never change the president in a land that's in war.
I'm not for Bush (not in the sligthest!), but this is an interesting statement, though.

[Dirk_Hendrik]

And a hot girlfriend that could use some extra technical 'input'.

thanks dude ....... I seem to have lost all credits...... :o

[Speeddemon]

And a hot girlfriend that could use some extra technical 'input'.

thanks dude ....... I seem to have lost all credits...... :o
Yes, all because you wanted to SELL that MiG clone. :razz:

(if Keith turns out uglier than you, you can come back. :lol: )

[Quink]

...looking for political assylum. :-(

Hi Keith,

well, I've got an attic and a soldering iron, so... :D
Same here.

And a hot girlfriend that could use some extra technical 'input'. :oops: :wink:

Ah, damn. On the other hand, if you were mr. Mercedes, would you want to share a garage with mr. BMW? Not that I in the least tiny bit in any way whatsoever think that Mr. HOT WIRE AUDIO MIG BOOST Speeddemon would be tempted to have a look at any new products you might be developing, I'm sure.


Oh, Speedy, in light of this, I suppose you no longer want me to send my FuzzMaster to you for er, research purposes? :razz:

[Antal]

And a hot girlfriend that could use some extra technical 'input'. :oops: :wink:

You can't handle her on your own speedy.... ? :-D

[Quink]

And a hot girlfriend that could use some extra technical 'input'. :oops: :wink:

You can't handle her on your own speedy.... ? :-D

"Speedy" is not necessarily always a good thing.... :-D :-D

[Antal]

"Speedy" is not necessarily always a good thing.... :-D :-D

That explains a lot!!! :-D

[Speeddemon]

Actually, my love making is more in terms of marathon times....

1h56m38s... 8-) :lol:

my music, carspeed and rollercoaster preference is where I derived the name Speeddemon from.

[Quink]

Actually, my love making is more in terms of marathon times....

1h56m38s... 8-) :lol:

my music, carspeed and rollercoaster preference is where I derived the name Speeddemon from.

Yes. And most butchers swear that it's a pheasant, when what he is actually selling is a small, skinny chicken. :roll:


:-D :-D

[bigtonemusicbrewery]

Europe cannot influence america. We are an empire. Whether the people here realize that on a conscious level or not does not matter. We have military bases all over the world, many in Europe, but do you think we would ever allow an EU nation to build a military base here? If an EU nation ever tried to set up an institution on american soil whose purpose was to influence our "democracy" in any way, there would be riots in the streets.

The mood in america right now is one of very strong (but misdirected) national pride and a desire to return to the Jeffersonian policies of isolating ourself from the rest of the world.

There is nothing anyone can really do about it for the next 4 years. Hopefully we will have come to our senses by then.



aaaaaaaaaaah, u poor lad. but u must admit...the wife of Bush just had a better recipe for cookies. so victory was already proclaimed.

most Europeans would like to have Kerry winning the race. do u think that Europeans could influence the votings? cuz i get the feeling that at this moment most Americans and Europeans don't know much about each other. and that's why it's possible for Bush to shift focus from foreign politics 2 internal politics. and that's why he can play the lonesome cowboy. should Europe b more aware that the world is gettin smaller? and as the world is gettin smaller, politics is gettin a wider influence? with no doubt it can be said that America's political environment influences the rest of the world. so, i think that, if Europe really would like 2 c political changes, they must be politically active in Amerika during the elections. give lectures and stuff like that.
ow well, the political environment in Europe aint that great as well. tho i think the declaration of intent considering the European Constitution is a big step 2wards political unity within the European community.

i wish us luck, during the upcoming period term of service of Bush. we'll survive

[bigtonemusicbrewery]

I think there will be an attack on bush in person somewhere in the next 4 years.
I doubt he's gonna get killed...

there is a positive thing about bush being re-elected: he can't make things any worse than they already are can he? If he manages to do that he's crazier than any freakshow. :razz:

You are very wrong, Birt. It's more than just Bush. Super tuesday is an election day for many many different offices. The republican party has gained control over most branches of our government. This means that Bush's policies are going to be blindly passed without any sort of "checks and balances" now. What ever he wants, he will now get. And the situation is even more dire than it seems...Chief Justice Wlliam Rhenquist of the supreme court is on his deathbed. This position is a lifelong appointment. This means that Bush is going to get to choose someone who has the power to change America's constitution. Bans on gay marriage, abortion...Bush will turn american into a puritanical state.

[bigtonemusicbrewery]

...looking for political assylum. :-(

Hi Keith,

well, I've got an attic and a soldering iron, so... :D
Same here.

And a hot girlfriend that could use some extra technical 'input'. :oops: :wink:

Did someone say D.P.? I was thinking about Canada, or maybe Brazil, but maybe I should get my passport in order for NL too.

[bigtonemusicbrewery]

And a hot girlfriend that could use some extra technical 'input'.

thanks dude ....... I seem to have lost all credits...... :o
Yes, all because you wanted to SELL that MiG clone. :razz:

(if Keith turns out uglier than you, you can come back. :lol: )

I am an ugly bastard, but I'm 6'8" ( I think that's like 210cm) and hung like a bull, so your girlfriend might not want me to leave.

[BlackSun]

And a hot girlfriend that could use some extra technical 'input'.

thanks dude ....... I seem to have lost all credits...... :o
Yes, all because you wanted to SELL that MiG clone. :razz:

(if Keith turns out uglier than you, you can come back. :lol: )

I am an ugly bastard, but I'm 6'8" ( I think that's like 210cm) and hung like a bull, so your girlfriend might not want me to leave.

Well maybe we can 'import' you to holland then as an endangered specie :D

[birt]

I think there will be an attack on bush in person somewhere in the next 4 years.
I doubt he's gonna get killed...

there is a positive thing about bush being re-elected: he can't make things any worse than they already are can he? If he manages to do that he's crazier than any freakshow. :razz:

You are very wrong, Birt. It's more than just Bush. Super tuesday is an election day for many many different offices. The republican party has gained control over most branches of our government. This means that Bush's policies are going to be blindly passed without any sort of "checks and balances" now. What ever he wants, he will now get. And the situation is even more dire than it seems...Chief Justice Wlliam Rhenquist of the supreme court is on his deathbed. This position is a lifelong appointment. This means that Bush is going to get to choose someone who has the power to change America's constitution. Bans on gay marriage, abortion...Bush will turn american into a puritanical state.
:o

[Mitch]

With your German last name, I don't think you'll be happy living in Holland as a political refugee, after WW2 we stil don't like our neighbours :D

On a serious side: I heard about about the Senate, Congress and the fact he's in for appointing judges for the Supreme Court also this period. Scary.

I read about polls, held in a few states, that were about marriage. The majority voted for a man/woman-only marriage. So much for gay marriage then....seems like there is very little open mindedness going on lately.

Anyway, we just experienced our first radical islamic assassination too. A director and writer, slightly comparable to Michael Moore but slightly less political, was brutally murdered. I'm curious how the response will be over here.

[sandman4justice]

I'm kinda' scared bush being re-elected. His previous term he had to keep his popularity high to get a second term, and in that first term already he turned the world upside down. Now he can do whatever he wants, he can't be re-elected, i think the problems have just started.

[Nocki]

I've seen 9/11 fahrenheit yesterday... it is still commical so see and hear that guy (the president) say thinkg on tv. if he wasnt the pres. i could have laughed. but it really made us sad to see someone like him do what he does for a living and destoy a country doin it.

Nocki

[Robbert]

Well.. since an US president can only be elected twice, some people say that the first term has the most impact and changes.
Second term may be used to loosen up a little and to bring the new first republican or democrat in the spotlight.

[Nocki]

Now he can have a longer vacation because most of the work is done. after his vacation he wont have any trouble with young american people who think and want a better america because he send them all to places far far away...

[Quink]

Well.. since an US president can only be elected twice, some people say that the first term has the most impact and changes.
Second term may be used to loosen up a little and to bring the new first republican or democrat in the spotlight.

Hmm, since Bush doesn't have to worry about his popularity anymore, and the Rep. party has a majority, he can more or less do what he wants. The only thing he has to worry about, are the consequences whatever he does have for the Rep. party.

[bigtonemusicbrewery]

With your German last name, I don't think you'll be happy living in Holland as a political refugee, after WW2 we stil don't like our neighbours :D

Does it help my case any if my family left Germany before the Nazis came to power?

[H.Manback]

Probably not, never overestimate the intelligence of the average Dutchman :razz: (but seriously, a lot of Dutch people have German family names, hell, our royal family is technically german)

[jaywalker]

One of them joined the SS :)

[Nocki]

:-) idd tank commandant...

NOcki

[H.Manback]

One of them joined the SS :)

What does Solid State have to do with this :???:

;)

[Nocki]

fascisten hebben een solid state brein. normaal denkende mensen hebben daarintegen buizen...

???? :-)

Nocki

[Robbert]

One of them joined the SS :)

Actually two.

[Nocki]

hee nou ben ik benieuwd.. prins claus weet ik. maar wie was die ander?

o ja voor dat er een discussie komt. die jongen werd natuurlijk verplicht om bij deze elite te gaan horen waar je alleen bij kon als je echt arier was...


Nocki

[Robbert]

Vader Van Vollenhoven was NSB-lid

***************************************
HILVERSUM De vader van Pieter van
Vollenhoven is lid geweest van de NSB.
De politicoloog Paul van der Steen zei
dit in NOVA.De schoonvader van prinses
Margriet zegde zijn lidmaatschap op in
1936,vóór de Nationaal Socialistische
Beweging in Duits vaarwater raakte.

Van der Steen baseert zich op een niet
gepubliceerd dagboekfragment van oud-
premier De Quay uit 1967.Het nieuws zou
binnenskamers gehouden kunnen zijn,om
het huwelijk niet in gevaar te brengen.

Pieter van Vollenhoven zegt via de RVD
dat de secretaris van koningin Juliana
hem vlak voor de verloving met Margriet
inlichtte over het NSB-lidmaatschap.


Dus. Enige correctie op zijn plaats, omdat het niet direct één van de Oranjes betreft.

Neemt niet weg dat ons Oranje behoorlijk omstreden connecties heeft. Ik noem Maxima (haar vader), ik noem Mabel.. een Lockheed affaire.