de toccata en fuga van Bach, legato?

[fuck nu-metal]

Ik ben op het moment dit monumentale meesterwerk van Bach aan het instuderen op m'n elektrische gitaar, maar nu weet ik niet precies hoe ik dit stuk moet spelen:

|-17-15-17-------\--3-1-0----------5-3-5-----------------|
|-------------------------3--2-3-------------------------|
|---------------------------------------------------2----|
|---------------------------------------------2-3---0----|
|-------------------------------------------------4------|
|--------------------------------------------------------|

~~~~~~~~~ Let ring.......
|--------------------------------------------------0-----|
|-------------------------------------3---------2--2-----|
|-2^0-<2>-----------------------------2-------3----3-----|
|-----------------5-3-2---------------0-----5------5-----|
|------------------------5-4--5-----------4--------4-----|
|--------------------------------------------------------|

...... Let ring...............
|----------------------------------||-----|
|-----------3----------------------||-----|
|-----------2----------------------||-----|
|-----------5--2--4----------------||-----|
|----------------------------------||--4--|
|----------------------------------||-----|


|----------------------------------------------------|
|----------------------------------------------------|
|--------------------------------------------------0-|
|------------------------2--3-5-2--3-5-2--3-5-2--3---|
|-5-7-4--5-7-4--5-7-4--5-----------------------------|
|----------------------------------------------------|


|----------------------------------------------------|
|--------------------------------2-------------------|
|-2-3-0--2-3-0--2-3-0--<2>---------------------------|
|----------------------------------------------------|
|----------------------------------------------------|
|----------------------------------------------------|


|--------------------------------------------------3-|
|-3-5-2--3-5-2--3-5-2--3-5--6-7-5--6-7-5--6-7-5--6---|
|----------------------------------------------------|
|----------------------------------------------------|
|----------------------------------------------------|
|----------------------------------------------------|


|-5-6-3--5-6-3--5-6-3--5----------5^-----------------|
|----------------------------------------------------|
|----------------------------------------------------|
|----------------------------------------------------|
|----------------------------------------------------|
|----------------------------------------------------|

t t t t t t t t
|-3^6^0^3^6^0^-----------------------------------------|
|-------------6^10^3^6^10^3^5^8^1^5^8^1^---------------|
|---------------------------------------7^10^3^7^10^3^-|
|------------------------------------------------------|
|------------------------------------------------------|
|------------------------------------------------------|

t t t t t t t t
|------------------------------------------------------|
|------------------------------------------------------|
|-5^9^2^5^9^2^3^7^0^3^7^0^-----------------------------|
|-------------------------7^10^3^7^10^3^5^8^2^5^8^2^---|
|------------------------------------------------------|
|------------------------------------------------------|

t t t t Let ring.........
|------------------------------------------------------|
|-------------------------------3-----------5^---------|
|-------------------------------2---------3-3^---------|
|-3^7^0^3^7^0^------------------0-------5---5^---------|
|-------------7^10^4^7^10^4-----------4-----4^---------|
|------------------------------------------------------|

tr........ ~~~~~~~
|------------------------------------------------------------|
|-^5---------------------------------------------------------|
|-^3^ ^3-2-0----------------------------------------------|
|-^5------------3-2-0-------------2-4--3--------------2------|
|-^4------------------4-2-4--0--4----------------------------|
|------------------------------------------------------------|

t t t t t t t t
|------------------------------------------------------------|
|------------------------------------------------------------|
|--------2---7^2^9^2^10^2^7^2^9^2^10^2^12^2^9^2--------------|
|-3----------------------------------------------------------|
|-5----------------------------------------------------------|
|-5----------------------------------------------------------|

t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t
|---------------------------------------------------------------------------|
|---------------------------------------------------------------------------|
|10^2^12^2^14^2^10^2^12^2^14^2^15^2^12^2^14^2^10^2 ^12^2^9^2^10^2^7^2^9^2^6^2|
|---------------------------------------------------------------------------|
|---------------------------------------------------------------------------|
|---------------------------------------------------------------------------|


t
|---------------------------------------------------------------------------|
|---------------------------------------------------------------------------|
|--7^2----------------------------------------------------------------------|
|---------------------------------------------------------------------------|
|-------12^0-13^0-10^0-12^0-8^0-10^0-7^0-8^0-5^0-7^0-4^0-8^0-5^0-7^0-4^0----|
|---------------------------------------------------------------------------|


|---------------------------------------------------------------------------|
|---------------------------------------------------------------------------|
|---------------------------------------------------------------------------|
|---------------------------------------------------------------------------|
|-5^0-12^0-13^0-10^0-12^0-8^0-10^0-7^0-8^0-5^0-7^0-4^0-8^0-5^0-7^0-4^0------|
|---------------------------------------------------------------------------|


|-------------6--------5--------3----------5--------------------------------|
|-----------6---6----5---5----3---3------5----------------------------------|
|---------7--------5--------3----------2------------------------------------|
|------------------------------------2---------8----7----5------------------|
|-5------------------------------------------5-8----7----5------------------|
|----------------------------------------------6--5----6-3------------------|


|-------------6--------5--------3----------5--------------------------------|
|-----------6---6----5---5----3---3------5----------------------------------|
|-2-------7--------5--------3----------2------------------------------------|
|-2----------------------------------2---------8----7----5------------------|
|-4------------------------------------------5-8----7----5------------------|
|-5--------------------------------------------6--5----6-3------------------|


|--------------------------------------------------------------------------|
|--------------------------------------------------------------------------|
|-2^ ^2------------------------------0^2----------------6-------------|
|-2^ ^2---5^3^2----------------0^2^3------5^3^2^3-0^3^7---------------|
|-4^ ^4---------5^4^2^4--0^2^4----------------------------------------|
|-5^ ^5---------------------------------------------------------------|


|----------------3^5^6------6----5----3--5---------6------------------------|
|-3--------3^5^6----------3-6----5----3--5-------3-6------------------------|
|----2^4^6------------------3--2----3-0--6-----3----------------------------|
|----------------------------------------7---0------------------------------|
|---------------------------------------------------------------------------|
|---------------------------------------------------------------------------|


|---5-------------3---5------6----5----3--5---------------------------------|
|---5-------------3---2----3-6----5----3--5-----------3---------------------|
|-----5-2-----0-3-----2------3--2----3-0--6-----------4---------------------|
|-----------------------------------------7-----------3---------------------|
|-3---------1---------4-----------------------------------------------------|
|---------------------------------------------------------------------------|


|-----------0^3/6---5^3^1^0-------------------------------------------------|
|-2-------------------------6^5^3\2-----------------------------------------|
|-2---4^2^6-------------------------7^5^3\2---------------------------------|
|-2-----------------------------------------5^3^2^0-------------------------|
|---------------------------------------------------------------------------|
|---------------------------------------------------------------------------|

t t t t
|-0-------------------------------------------------------------------------|
|-2-----8^5^2-------8^5^2---------------------------------------------------|
|-0-----------9^6^3-------9^6^3---------------------------------------------|
|-2-------------------------------------------------------------------------|
|---------------------------------------------------------------------------|
|---------------------------------------------------------------------------|

t t t t t t t t t t t t
|---------------------------------------------------------------------------|
|-8^5^2-------8^5^2-------8^5^2---------------------------------------------|
|-------9^6^3-------9^6^3-------9^6^3-6^3^0-------6^3^0---------------------|
|-------------------------------------------8^5^2-------8^5^2---------------|
|---------------------------------------------------------------------------|
|---------------------------------------------------------------------------|

t t t t t t t t
|---------------------------------------------------------------------------|
|---------------------------------------------------------------------------|
|-6^3^0-------6^3^0---------------------------------------------------------|
|-------8^5^2-------8^5^2---------------------------------------------------|
|--------------------------10^7^4--------10^7^4-----------------------------|
|---------------------------------12^9^6--------12^9^6----------------------|

t t t t t t t t
|---------------------------------------------------------------------------|
|---------------------------------------------------------------------------|
|---------------------------------------------------------------------------|
|------------------------------------8^5^2--------8^5^2---------------------|
|-10^7^4--------10^7^4--------10^7^4-------10^7^4---------------------------|
|--------12^9^6--------12^9^6-----------------------------------------------|

t t t t t t t t
|---------------------------------------------------------------------------|
|---------------------------------------------------------------------------|
|---------------------------6^3^0-9^6^3-6^3^0-9^6^3-------------------------|
|--------8^5^2--------8^5^2-------------------------------------------------|
|-10^7^4-------10^7^4-------------------------------------------------------|
|---------------------------------------------------------------------------|

t t t t
|---------------------------5---------------5-------------------------------|
|-8^5^2-------8^5^2---------5---------------6-------------------------------|
|-------9^6^3-------9^6^3---6---------------7-------------------------------|
|---------------------------7---------------7-------------------------------|
|---------------------------------------------------------------------------|
|---------------------------------------------------------------------------|


|-3----------3------------------|------------------------1----0-------------|
|-3----------5------------------|----------------3-------3----3--2----------|
|-3----2-0---6------------------|----------------3--2----2----2----0--------|
|-5----------7--2------3-0-2----|-0--------------3--3----3----0-------------|
|----------------------------4--|---2-4-0-1---0--4--5-----------------------|
|-------------------------------|-----------4-------------------------------|


|------------------------------||
|--3---------------------------||
|--2---------------------------||
|--5------3-2---3--------------||
|------------------------------||
|------------------------------||


Het gaat om het handtapping-stuk. Hoe doe je dat?

[Negative K3 fan]

met vingers van je rechterhand hammer ons maken op de frets.

en een meesterwerk van bach op electrische gitaar is al meteen geen meesterwerk meer, dit nummer is alleen een meesterwerk op het orgel vanwege de polyfonie en dynamieken etc van een orgel.

[Negative K3 fan]

als je trouwens tab probeert te quoten moet je ff de code tags gebruiken

zoals dit


|-17-15-17-------\--3-1-0----------5-3-5-----------------|
|-------------------------3--2-3-------------------------|
|---------------------------------------------------2----|
|---------------------------------------------2-3---0----|
|-------------------------------------------------4------|
|--------------------------------------------------------|

~~~~~~~~~ Let ring.......
|--------------------------------------------------0-----|
|-------------------------------------3---------2--2-----|
|-2^0-<2>-----------------------------2-------3----3-----|
|-----------------5-3-2---------------0-----5------5-----|
|------------------------5-4--5-----------4--------4-----|
|--------------------------------------------------------|

...... Let ring...............
|----------------------------------||-----|
|-----------3----------------------||-----|
|-----------2----------------------||-----|
|-----------5--2--4----------------||-----|
|----------------------------------||--4--|
|----------------------------------||-----|


|----------------------------------------------------|
|----------------------------------------------------|
|--------------------------------------------------0-|
|------------------------2--3-5-2--3-5-2--3-5-2--3---|
|-5-7-4--5-7-4--5-7-4--5-----------------------------|
|----------------------------------------------------|


|----------------------------------------------------|
|--------------------------------2-------------------|
|-2-3-0--2-3-0--2-3-0--<2>---------------------------|
|----------------------------------------------------|
|----------------------------------------------------|
|----------------------------------------------------|


|--------------------------------------------------3-|
|-3-5-2--3-5-2--3-5-2--3-5--6-7-5--6-7-5--6-7-5--6---|
|----------------------------------------------------|
|----------------------------------------------------|
|----------------------------------------------------|
|----------------------------------------------------|


|-5-6-3--5-6-3--5-6-3--5----------5^-----------------|
|----------------------------------------------------|
|----------------------------------------------------|
|----------------------------------------------------|
|----------------------------------------------------|
|----------------------------------------------------|

t t t t t t t t
|-3^6^0^3^6^0^-----------------------------------------|
|-------------6^10^3^6^10^3^5^8^1^5^8^1^---------------|
|---------------------------------------7^10^3^7^10^3^-|
|------------------------------------------------------|
|------------------------------------------------------|
|------------------------------------------------------|

t t t t t t t t
|------------------------------------------------------|
|------------------------------------------------------|
|-5^9^2^5^9^2^3^7^0^3^7^0^-----------------------------|
|-------------------------7^10^3^7^10^3^5^8^2^5^8^2^---|
|------------------------------------------------------|
|------------------------------------------------------|

t t t t Let ring.........
|------------------------------------------------------|
|-------------------------------3-----------5^---------|
|-------------------------------2---------3-3^---------|
|-3^7^0^3^7^0^------------------0-------5---5^---------|
|-------------7^10^4^7^10^4-----------4-----4^---------|
|------------------------------------------------------|

tr........ ~~~~~~~
|------------------------------------------------------------|
|-^5---------------------------------------------------------|
|-^3^ ^3-2-0----------------------------------------------|
|-^5------------3-2-0-------------2-4--3--------------2------|
|-^4------------------4-2-4--0--4----------------------------|
|------------------------------------------------------------|

t t t t t t t t
|------------------------------------------------------------|
|------------------------------------------------------------|
|--------2---7^2^9^2^10^2^7^2^9^2^10^2^12^2^9^2--------------|
|-3----------------------------------------------------------|
|-5----------------------------------------------------------|
|-5----------------------------------------------------------|

t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t t
|---------------------------------------------------------------------------|
|---------------------------------------------------------------------------|
|10^2^12^2^14^2^10^2^12^2^14^2^15^2^12^2^14^2^10^2 ^12^2^9^2^10^2^7^2^9^2^6^2|
|---------------------------------------------------------------------------|
|---------------------------------------------------------------------------|
|---------------------------------------------------------------------------|


t
|---------------------------------------------------------------------------|
|---------------------------------------------------------------------------|
|--7^2----------------------------------------------------------------------|
|---------------------------------------------------------------------------|
|-------12^0-13^0-10^0-12^0-8^0-10^0-7^0-8^0-5^0-7^0-4^0-8^0-5^0-7^0-4^0----|
|---------------------------------------------------------------------------|


|---------------------------------------------------------------------------|
|---------------------------------------------------------------------------|
|---------------------------------------------------------------------------|
|---------------------------------------------------------------------------|
|-5^0-12^0-13^0-10^0-12^0-8^0-10^0-7^0-8^0-5^0-7^0-4^0-8^0-5^0-7^0-4^0------|
|---------------------------------------------------------------------------|


|-------------6--------5--------3----------5--------------------------------|
|-----------6---6----5---5----3---3------5----------------------------------|
|---------7--------5--------3----------2------------------------------------|
|------------------------------------2---------8----7----5------------------|
|-5------------------------------------------5-8----7----5------------------|
|----------------------------------------------6--5----6-3------------------|


|-------------6--------5--------3----------5--------------------------------|
|-----------6---6----5---5----3---3------5----------------------------------|
|-2-------7--------5--------3----------2------------------------------------|
|-2----------------------------------2---------8----7----5------------------|
|-4------------------------------------------5-8----7----5------------------|
|-5--------------------------------------------6--5----6-3------------------|


|--------------------------------------------------------------------------|
|--------------------------------------------------------------------------|
|-2^ ^2------------------------------0^2----------------6-------------|
|-2^ ^2---5^3^2----------------0^2^3------5^3^2^3-0^3^7---------------|
|-4^ ^4---------5^4^2^4--0^2^4----------------------------------------|
|-5^ ^5---------------------------------------------------------------|


|----------------3^5^6------6----5----3--5---------6------------------------|
|-3--------3^5^6----------3-6----5----3--5-------3-6------------------------|
|----2^4^6------------------3--2----3-0--6-----3----------------------------|
|----------------------------------------7---0------------------------------|
|---------------------------------------------------------------------------|
|---------------------------------------------------------------------------|


|---5-------------3---5------6----5----3--5---------------------------------|
|---5-------------3---2----3-6----5----3--5-----------3---------------------|
|-----5-2-----0-3-----2------3--2----3-0--6-----------4---------------------|
|-----------------------------------------7-----------3---------------------|
|-3---------1---------4-----------------------------------------------------|
|---------------------------------------------------------------------------|


|-----------0^3/6---5^3^1^0-------------------------------------------------|
|-2-------------------------6^5^3\2-----------------------------------------|
|-2---4^2^6-------------------------7^5^3\2---------------------------------|
|-2-----------------------------------------5^3^2^0-------------------------|
|---------------------------------------------------------------------------|
|---------------------------------------------------------------------------|

t t t t
|-0-------------------------------------------------------------------------|
|-2-----8^5^2-------8^5^2---------------------------------------------------|
|-0-----------9^6^3-------9^6^3---------------------------------------------|
|-2-------------------------------------------------------------------------|
|---------------------------------------------------------------------------|
|---------------------------------------------------------------------------|

t t t t t t t t t t t t
|---------------------------------------------------------------------------|
|-8^5^2-------8^5^2-------8^5^2---------------------------------------------|
|-------9^6^3-------9^6^3-------9^6^3-6^3^0-------6^3^0---------------------|
|-------------------------------------------8^5^2-------8^5^2---------------|
|---------------------------------------------------------------------------|
|---------------------------------------------------------------------------|

t t t t t t t t
|---------------------------------------------------------------------------|
|---------------------------------------------------------------------------|
|-6^3^0-------6^3^0---------------------------------------------------------|
|-------8^5^2-------8^5^2---------------------------------------------------|
|--------------------------10^7^4--------10^7^4-----------------------------|
|---------------------------------12^9^6--------12^9^6----------------------|

t t t t t t t t
|---------------------------------------------------------------------------|
|---------------------------------------------------------------------------|
|---------------------------------------------------------------------------|
|------------------------------------8^5^2--------8^5^2---------------------|
|-10^7^4--------10^7^4--------10^7^4-------10^7^4---------------------------|
|--------12^9^6--------12^9^6-----------------------------------------------|

t t t t t t t t
|---------------------------------------------------------------------------|
|---------------------------------------------------------------------------|
|---------------------------6^3^0-9^6^3-6^3^0-9^6^3-------------------------|
|--------8^5^2--------8^5^2-------------------------------------------------|
|-10^7^4-------10^7^4-------------------------------------------------------|
|---------------------------------------------------------------------------|

t t t t
|---------------------------5---------------5-------------------------------|
|-8^5^2-------8^5^2---------5---------------6-------------------------------|
|-------9^6^3-------9^6^3---6---------------7-------------------------------|
|---------------------------7---------------7-------------------------------|
|---------------------------------------------------------------------------|
|---------------------------------------------------------------------------|


|-3----------3------------------|------------------------1----0-------------|
|-3----------5------------------|----------------3-------3----3--2----------|
|-3----2-0---6------------------|----------------3--2----2----2----0--------|
|-5----------7--2------3-0-2----|-0--------------3--3----3----0-------------|
|----------------------------4--|---2-4-0-1---0--4--5-----------------------|
|-------------------------------|-----------4-------------------------------|


|------------------------------||
|--3---------------------------||
|--2---------------------------||
|--5------3-2---3--------------||
|------------------------------||
|------------------------------||

[willem1940]

"Legato": vast niet; Bach is haast altijd "staccato" of minstens bijna. IEDER toontje moet apart steeds waarneembaar zijn, niets vervloeit.

Vroeger wel een paar Bach-dingetjes geoefend op een trap-orgeltje en later ook op een piano; werd niets geweldigs maar soms bijna-redelijk en voor mij de enige manier van trainen was om rustig te starten op "half tempo" en allebei de handen los van elkaar te oefenen. Later pas met 2 handen en op een aanvaardbaar tempo. Meest gemaakte fout is als iemand te snel wil, zelfs sommige pro's; dan gaat het ritme kapot en vervloeien er "snelle" passages die "tinkelend" hadden moeten doorkomen.

Ik heb Bach altijd DE kanjer gevonden; met een héél klein beetje duwen op maatslagen 2 en 4 swingt het spontaan. Jammer dat ik van dat spul zo weinig terechtbreng.

[telecastermaster]

Ik ben d'r ook eens aan begonnen (helaas nooit afgemaakt :-? ). Ik raad je aan ff goed te zoeken naar tabs omdat er vrij veel verschillende versies van te vinden zijn.

Hoe moet je trouwens die code tag gebruiken??

[JV]

is vrij simpel. alleen moet je niet die tab gebruiken.

www.andygavin.com

daar staat een echte electrische versie tab met mp3

hmm, tab staat er niet bij zag ik

http://www.guitarwar.com/viewentry.php?entry=8261

hier dan

[telecastermaster]

hier dan :
http://www.guitartabs.cc/fetchurl.php?filename=/b/bach_johann_sebastian/toccata_and_fugue.tab