Han S
6 september 2008, 21:16
Draadje op PSW over drums opnemen waarbij de drummer veel te hard gaat op de cymbals. Een post van iemand die me wat doet denken aan Slipperman:
As I am right this very minute wondering if my right ear will ever again reproduce the sound of a flushing toilet or running sink without distortion due to exactly this type of entitlement freak, I will apologize in advance for the rant.
<RANT WARNING>
There was a comment on this board just this afternoon stating that the brass/battery balance is always the job of the engineer's mic placement.
While I understand and even agree with that sentiment in it's context _after_the_fact_, the truth is that the proper addressing of the Brass/Battery balance IS ALWAYS THE JOB OF THE DRUMMER.
End of discussion.
Full stop.
No exceptions.
"Engineers" and "Producers" who teach young percussionists otherwise are in fact part, if not the ROOT, of the problem.
If Emo-boy can't f-ing play, Emo-boy shouldn't be f-ing working.
Same deal with sh*t-for-brains tonedeaf asshat f*cktards who can't be bothered to learn how to tune their guitars... or basses... or du'duk's or what the f*ck ever.
There are a sh*tload of opinions about the current state of the industry, and whose fault it might be, and what to do about it. The truth of course is actually quite simple. Stop pretending that these clueless twits have talent.
And don't give me any weak sh*t about how we can only do what we're given, that's straight up bullsh*t. The truth is that the cowcrap hacks have been given free reign on this industry for the last 40 years, and that is ENTIRELY the fault of those who should have known better. I.E - YOU AND ME. If you don't agree with that simple precept, then you are sadly mistaken.
Please note that these comments are the result of a very bad week, culminating in a very bad night, and are not directed toward anyone in particular. I'm sorry if I have offended anyone... but by the same token, I am now convinced that there is a special place in hell for those of us who have helped convince the public that some track-a-lackin schmuck is worthy of a career.
As to the issue at hand... I have never been convinced that hitting the battery harder is the answer to anyone's issue. Quite contrary to (pff...) "modern" thought, the best drum sounds in history were NOT the sole result of hitting the toms harder.
Ask your young "drummer" to put on the headphones and listen to the raw track for 20 minutes at 120dba (f they can do it to us, we can do it to them).
Then put on some Brubeck and ask if he can tell the f*cking difference.
Free Clues: Balance and Talent.
Just sayin.
<sigh... /rant>
Okay... I feel moderately better now.
Sorry.
http://recforums.prosoundweb.com/index.php/t/24723/1221/
As I am right this very minute wondering if my right ear will ever again reproduce the sound of a flushing toilet or running sink without distortion due to exactly this type of entitlement freak, I will apologize in advance for the rant.
<RANT WARNING>
There was a comment on this board just this afternoon stating that the brass/battery balance is always the job of the engineer's mic placement.
While I understand and even agree with that sentiment in it's context _after_the_fact_, the truth is that the proper addressing of the Brass/Battery balance IS ALWAYS THE JOB OF THE DRUMMER.
End of discussion.
Full stop.
No exceptions.
"Engineers" and "Producers" who teach young percussionists otherwise are in fact part, if not the ROOT, of the problem.
If Emo-boy can't f-ing play, Emo-boy shouldn't be f-ing working.
Same deal with sh*t-for-brains tonedeaf asshat f*cktards who can't be bothered to learn how to tune their guitars... or basses... or du'duk's or what the f*ck ever.
There are a sh*tload of opinions about the current state of the industry, and whose fault it might be, and what to do about it. The truth of course is actually quite simple. Stop pretending that these clueless twits have talent.
And don't give me any weak sh*t about how we can only do what we're given, that's straight up bullsh*t. The truth is that the cowcrap hacks have been given free reign on this industry for the last 40 years, and that is ENTIRELY the fault of those who should have known better. I.E - YOU AND ME. If you don't agree with that simple precept, then you are sadly mistaken.
Please note that these comments are the result of a very bad week, culminating in a very bad night, and are not directed toward anyone in particular. I'm sorry if I have offended anyone... but by the same token, I am now convinced that there is a special place in hell for those of us who have helped convince the public that some track-a-lackin schmuck is worthy of a career.
As to the issue at hand... I have never been convinced that hitting the battery harder is the answer to anyone's issue. Quite contrary to (pff...) "modern" thought, the best drum sounds in history were NOT the sole result of hitting the toms harder.
Ask your young "drummer" to put on the headphones and listen to the raw track for 20 minutes at 120dba (f they can do it to us, we can do it to them).
Then put on some Brubeck and ask if he can tell the f*cking difference.
Free Clues: Balance and Talent.
Just sayin.
<sigh... /rant>
Okay... I feel moderately better now.
Sorry.
http://recforums.prosoundweb.com/index.php/t/24723/1221/